Breakfast of Champions asked:
"Did I miss it, or has anyone leaked Watchtower's appeal "brief" online?"
The full set of documents can be found at http://jwactivists.org/blog/watchtower-appeals-the-conti-lawsuit/
Downloadable PDFs
JV
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if they were able to win on this ground, they could get out completely (although it could still be appealed to the ca supreme court).
Breakfast of Champions asked:
"Did I miss it, or has anyone leaked Watchtower's appeal "brief" online?"
The full set of documents can be found at http://jwactivists.org/blog/watchtower-appeals-the-conti-lawsuit/
Downloadable PDFs
JV
while you were sitting in that uncomfortable folding chair the other night.... listening to something you've heard already a thousand times before.... do you know what was happening at the same time?.
somebody somewhere else was studying a real textbook.
somebody was cramming for a college exam.
Terry!!! Excellent post.
JV
i've been thinking that the michael norris case makes it clear that an accused jw perpetrator of child sexual abuse, who has been identified, can 'disappear' into another congregation in another place.
in the case of michael norris, it's obvious that the watchtower knew norris was hiding in costa rica where he attended a jw congregation.
so this makes me wonder if anyone still on the 'inside' knows where rick mclean is at present.
Barb,
He has been rumored to be in hiding somewhere in Oregon. I will be featuring his case in a speech I will be giving in Portland on Monday, 4/8 and maybe we can get the word out here for everyone to look out for him.
Thanks for reminding me about this guy. I already had his case listed in my outline, but I will emphasize it during my talk.
JV
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if they were able to win on this ground, they could get out completely (although it could still be appealed to the ca supreme court).
Yes, I agree. Very good analysis of the filings...
JV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
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At the moment the group is incorporated under that name, so that is the name that will be used for the time being.
Please continue to submit suggestions for better names.
Before that name was settled on, there was a lot of debate and many suggestions were offered. It is always best to present a "positive" image of the group, but sometimes a stronger, more forceful name is more effective early in the game. We want to make sure that everyone knows which side of the fence we are all staning on at the onset.
A name like "Jehovah's Witness Support Team" is nice, but what does it mean? Are we for, or against? Are we a subsidiary of the Watchtower, or an anti-Watchtower group? I could go on and on, but today I don't want to bore you. I will save that for another post.
There are as many, if not more, supporters for the name as it is and there are critics. I'm sure that the name will be a major discussion topic at every meeting of the board for the foreseeable future.
So please read line 2 again and go forth...
JV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
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alecholmes
"the brief statedthat [ t]hat letter [a 1997 letter to boe] also confirmed watchtower's long-standing policy that a known child molester does not qualify to be appointed to a position of responsibility in any congregation.
" http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/250093/1/summary-of-wt-appeal-brief-in-conti-case.
i can assure you all that Candace and her attorney and dozens of her friends have access to copies of that letter.
JV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
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Quiet One - We all have at least two questions. Nothing is set in concrete (you have no idea how many changes we made in the last 24 hours before going online). Along with our questions, we all know that none of us has the answers, but we have to start some where and get this ball rolling or nothing will get done.
Originally Richard Kelly wanted to be the anti-type of Judge Rutherford, I would be C T Russel, and Cedars was going to be Fred Franz in our replacement version of the Governing Body. But we all realized that Danmera, Barbara, and Lady Lee were all more efficient, smarter, and better looking than we were. Would Governing Body 2.0 have to allow women to be members? And then there were the foreigners, Bo and Paul. Would we have to give them equal status over us Americans and a Brit? Unheard of apostacy!
But I can't grow a decent beard, Dick Kelly isn't the dictator type, and Cedars is not batshit crazy (although I hear he does walk around with a pocket protector and stares at his shoes).
So I guess our group will have to take a entirely new approach to being Governing Body 2.0. Somehow I think we will just be ourselves and join with the other volunteers to achieve our goal. We don't want to become the new Governing Body, but find ways to get the current governing body to change their ways in positive and loving ways. They can keep their jobs - we don't want them. But they need to do a lot better serving their flock. That is our goal.
JV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
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The new website has been visited well over 1500 times within the first two hours.
Thank everyone of you for your fine support. AAWA will do its best to live up to your hopes and expectations!
JV
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Volunteer application is now available in both Word .doc and editable PDF versions. If they don't work, send a contact or email request and we'll email you one as an attachment.
JV